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This is a discussion on Who is the greatest? within the Polls forums, part of the Off Topic category; I think it's pretty hard to say Freddie Mercury wasn't an amazing songwriter....
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10-03-11, 11:11 AM
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| Call me Vlad  Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: South London
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  | I think it's pretty hard to say Freddie Mercury wasn't an amazing songwriter.
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10-03-11, 11:27 AM
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Anyone who's ever seen Live Aid will tell you that the concert had all these wonderful bands/musicians playing to a crowd that were into all different kinds of music but Mercury and Queen stole the show and had the whole crowd in the palm of his hand.
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10-03-11, 02:13 PM
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| Call me Ben ....  Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bristol / Neath
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I think Queen were an incredibly overrated pop rock band who were fairly bland. And his songwriting was complete naff at times, take Killer Queen for example, it's pure cack in terms of the lyrics. Sure they aren't a bad band, but pretty good in fairness. I'm just basing it off the fact i think they got too much attention compared to way better bands who didn't. So my opinion of them is highly based on their undeserved attention i think they got. Jim Morrison, Lou Reed, Van Morrison far better songwriters, yet a lot less known.
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10-03-11, 03:34 PM
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| Call me Vlad Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: South London
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| Songwriting isn't all lyrics though, it's writing the song as a whole. Obviously Queen have the epics like Bohemian Rhapsody, but Mercury was genius at more than just epics, brilliant pianist and amazing at vocal harmonies, like I Want It All and Fat Bottomed Girls! RIP God of pop.
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10-03-11, 03:36 PM
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| dont think MJ would have sold many records if he was recording back when elvis was. especially in the deep south  after his op however if he was not hanging from a tree all would be good 
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10-03-11, 08:10 PM
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MICHAEL JACKSON "IN OUR SMALL WAY" Lyrics And I say that as a MJ fan for what it's worth. I know you love your music debates but for someone who claims to have a varied taste in music your views are so narrow. How anyone could describe Freddie Mercury's overall performance as "bland" is beyond me...which goes to show just how personal the subject is. There is no "best" artist, it's like trying to compare Pele to Messi or Ali to Tyson. Everyone will have their own view for a variety of different reasons and you have to put the time they were around into context. If starts such as Elvis and The Beatles could sell millions of records when the media was so limited, then imagine what they could do now....or would they flop because the style of music wasn't right for the moment.
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11-03-11, 12:06 AM
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| Call me Ben .... Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bristol / Neath
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I never called Mercury bland, but the band fairly bland. Bassist, drummer weren't that good imo, brought nothing new to the table, and May was highly overrated and his live playing makes me cringe. Mercury was a fantastic vocalist (i mean, no one can deny that) but i still don't think he was that fantastic to be regarded as a true great. And if you're talking about how records sell, well it's been like since the start of the popular music industry, always the music that is commercially successful gets marketed. It's obviously gone downhill where in periods like the 60s and 70s the good outweighed the bad moreso, whereas now it's very difficult to find actual talent in the top 40 for example. I'm speaking as a fan of music from that period there were a number of artists i believe as some of the best who don't get the praise they might deserve. Well the 90s was a prime example of that anyway, where the underground flourished and where creativity and innovativity were at a level i haven't seen really in any other period. MJ and Queen were poppy. Might go to say why i don't listen to them both much now perhaps. Maybe it's the constant studying of The Beatles and Queen in music A level which has almost turned me against them, but i no longer am a fan really, just got bored of it. And surely if you're bored of it then that means it can't be that good to yourself, and well what i'm speaking is my opinion. Obviously you all don't agree with it which is cool as i know many many people who would disagree with it, but seeing as i've basically got the entire discography of Queen, when i used to really dig their music, i think i'm entitled to say what i think about them... And i am completely within my grounds to call something bland as remember music is completely subjective, and it's not like i have some limited music taste anyway... I never ever said there was a best anyway... There is no best artist ever, nor a best song ever. I'm just stating what i think from what i hear, and that's what music is about, how it sounds. I couldn't care less if people think less of me for an opinion or for listening to a certain artist, i listen to it for my enjoyment.
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11-03-11, 05:54 PM
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| Call me Vlad Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: South London
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| There's a lot more to basslines than making them complicated, but Queen's basslines were simple and fit in well, that's what made them good. If that doesn't make a good bassist, then I don't know what is. In that respect John Deacon is very similar to the mighty John Paul Jones, he knows when to play something complicated and knows when to blend in. That is the art of bass.
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11-03-11, 07:24 PM
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Also for the argument about musicians, I always think being technically good at guitar is only 50% of being a good guitarist, the rest is the ability to write. If writing music is your aim of course, you may just want to play covers in your room 
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