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This is a discussion on Lady GaGa. Hot? within the Polls forums, part of the Off Topic category; Originally Posted by Mac-d Lady Gaga is a prime example of image over content, its not real music, just catchy ...
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| Yes - I'd like to Poker Face |     | 9 | 33.33% |
| No -dude! She's a dude! |    | 9 | 33.33% |
| Neither |    | 9 | 33.33% |
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23-12-09, 01:04 AM
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23-12-09, 01:12 AM
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23-12-09, 01:30 AM
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23-12-09, 01:54 AM
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 | She has a good body but a very manish face! Plus she just gets as naked as possible to sell her records.
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23-12-09, 02:10 AM
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23-12-09, 08:37 AM
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| I think she's in the same bracket as Uma Thurman - sometimes she can look hot, although she's not really. Like in that perfume advert she's in just now she looks hot, but then you have to remember it's Uma Thurman.
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The "ma ma ma ma" in poker face is just like any song where there is a "la la la" and I challenge you to find an artist that doesn't do that every now and then How is "can't read my poker face" worse that "you're sex is on fire"?!? Good songs can have crap lyrics. David Bowie freely admits to cutting up newspaper headlines to get lyric ideas but no one criticises him as a musician. And more to the point, since when did good songwriting skills mean good lyric writing? A song is not just lyrics otherwise it would be a poem! Quote:
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Sheryl Crow admits she wrote her James Bond theme tune in 5 minutes, that's no time at all but does that in itself make it bad? Quote:
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23-12-09, 09:36 AM
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| Lets not forget what 'pop music' stands for - popular music i.e. anything that is bought by the masses. Pop music by definition is made to sell bucket loads and make money. Therefore any band or music act that gets no1 singles/albums is 'pop music'. Regardless of whether it's made by one man/woman in a studio, or a 5 piece rock band. However, the term 'pop' act has come to be associated with acts like Lady GaGa, and others like Sugababes, Girls Aloud, JLS etc as those acts have been created just to sell records and make money for the music label. 'Proper' bands like Kings of Leon, Biffy Clyro, U2 etc wouldn't like to be classed as 'pop' music as the term is also a bit of a put down to them - even though when they get a number 1, they are pop-ular music.
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23-12-09, 10:11 AM
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As for KOL, I like them and I don't know their thoughts on pop music but I don't understand how they can ba lauded as credible yet produce 3 chord songs like fans and the bucket?! They are good songs but incredibly simple yet gaga is slated even though she produces relatively complex neo goth pop fusion stuff like bad romance?! It's just snobbery, not an objective critique. | |
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23-12-09, 12:05 PM
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Most songs follow that structure, why should she be criticised for it when no one else is? Lyrics not making sense?! REM, end of the world as we know it - widely accepted as a great song but the lyrics make much less sense than lady gaga. Who said lyrics have to make sense anyway? Most lyrics use metaphor and simile, it could just be that you don't understand the metaphor? | |
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23-12-09, 12:08 PM
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 | Saints explains everything to as it should be imo and gives a great argument. i want to add a few things myself! Lets get things straight. AC/DC use the most simple of riffs yet aren't really looked down as a result of it due to the brilliant stuff they do with it all. Kings Of Leon's new album is one of the worst albums i have ever listened to and i cringe whenever i hear Sex On Fire and especially Use Somebody. Their stuff before that was good, as saint said it used relatively simple structures in some of their songs. The Beatles are known for some really weird damn non sensical lyrics (I am the walrus a prime example though it was meant that way by Lennon!) though they have some really great ones too. Lennon was top class songwriter, as was McCartney and Harrison at times. Diesel, you say music died in 97. Rephrase that to rap please as you don't have much knowledge of other genres as can be seen. Haven't you listened to Nas, Immortal Technique and Lupe Fiasco. While Nas never bettered his debut, Immortal Technique is singlehandly pme of the best storytellers in rap i have heard and is quite amazing. Listen to Dance with the Devil. Incredible. Lupe Fiasco too is incredibly good with his lyrics and one of my favourite modern lyricists. I don't doubt 2Pac was brilliantly talented, it's a completely different talent to playing the guitar though. One of the greats in rap. The argument i hate as kinda outlined by saint is the snobbery put down on electronically produced music. The skills behind producing music are very complex and takes years to master as there is so much in it. As a grade 8 pianist myself i can group both activities on a similar scale. It might be relatively easy to lay down a simple beat, but producing goes a lot further than that!!
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23-12-09, 12:27 PM
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| I don't think i've ever seen her face out of those stupid things she wears over it.
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23-12-09, 02:56 PM
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23-12-09, 03:01 PM
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| For me i think she's hot ... but not really beautiful in Frensh we say "Elle a un charme" (sorry dunno the english for "charme") |
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lol, though she has her face covered most of the time to try and trick you into thinking she's hot! 
