Server Move

[iFreeZone]

Let's have a PHP showdown!

[chigley]

Originally Posted by iFreeZone

Let's have a PHP showdown!

Ha, I'm sure Jon'll fix it in no time.

I wasn't trying to disprove DieselDragn (don't know if you thought it came across like that or not?!) at all, he's a good member and I respect his opinions, was just adding my own to spark some conversation!

[iFreeZone]

Lol!! It didn't come across like that at all!

[Jon]

Problem is I didnt setup vbseo right to ignore the word referrers when creating seo friendly url's (referrers is used for the name of the script that shows people how many members they have refereed)

The filesystem for vbulletin is fairly well known, and anyone trying to brute force guess the passwords will have a hard job, that said I do need to make it not display public error messages, problem with moving servers with different configs is that its best to rebuild all config files from scratch

[DieselDragn]

Originally Posted by Jon

Problem is I didnt setup vbseo right to ignore the word referrers when creating seo friendly url's (referrers is used for the name of the script that shows people how many members they have refereed)

Ahh...So that was the root cause of the problem, I assume? On that note though - Given the fact that the word "Referrer" comes up in everyday speech on this forum, as a rule - Doesn't that play havoc with SEOing the site?
Must admit I'd be inclined to rename referrers.php to something else, and grep through the entire installation to make sure that all instances of #include referrers.php were replaced. Bit of a pain to do that by hand, though...

By the by: I've never understood the need for these "SEO friendly" URLs that I see sites using. As an ASP developer (Who normally uses Brinkster for his hosting) I've become accustomed to writing scripts which take content IDs etc through a querystring and use that to select the relevant file(s) that make up the page.
Having no control over the servers that I use, I don't have the ability to change IIS settings so that calls for, say, "my-trip-to-hawaii.html" are routed to "content.asp?page=43037&title=My+trip+to+Hawai i" which leaves me at a bit of a disadvantage in the SEO stakes, especially as I prefer to stick to the MS-DOS 8.3 naming convention for my page names whenever possible.

Surely requiring every developer to have and use these "SEO friendly" URLs if they want to get a decent pagerank - When it's more than possible for a search engine to read and parse a querystring without trouble - Is a bit unfair on those of us who don't have full server control, isn't it?

Originally Posted by Jon

The filesystem for vbulletin is fairly well known, and anyone trying to brute force guess the passwords will have a hard job, that said I do need to make it not display public error messages, problem with moving servers with different configs is that its best to rebuild all config files from scratch

That's true...But at the same time rebuilding config files would mean the forum goes down for a lot more than ten minutes during a server move!

My usual approach to this when I'm moving a site is to copy and configure the skeleton (Scripts, board packages etc) first and test it to check that everything's working OK. Once the second server is up and running as intended, then I simply swap the database and content over.
That approach does mean that ye get a near uninterrupted service during the move, although a potential downside is that it involves renting and running the second server from some point beforehand...

[chigley]

@DieselDragn - why don't you get yourself some hosting that you have full control of, then? Rackspace Cloud for example. If I were you, I'd go Linux and start using PHP rather than ASP, too!

[-null-]

Wow DieselDragn....talk about old school coding

[DieselDragn]

Originally Posted by -null-

Wow DieselDragn....talk about old school coding

I'm still very much in a "Web 1.0" mindset I have to admit. After coming across several websites - Including Facebook and YouTube - That break easily because of their heavy reliance on clientside scripting and data processing (Especially on slower and older PCs), I've decided that I'll be keeping any critical processing serverside and using Javascript/AJAX for minor functions only - With pages designed in such a way that the site still works with exactly the same degree of functionality even in text-only browsers (Including TTY-based Braille clients and screen-readers for the blind) and those without Javascript support!

Originally Posted by chigley

@DieselDragn - why don't you get yourself some hosting that you have full control of, then? Rackspace Cloud for example. If I were you, I'd go Linux and start using PHP rather than ASP, too!

That's something I'll have to look into for the future I suppose, although I'd really like to do everything on free hosting if I could. As it happens, I have an account with 000WebHost that I intend to use for hosting my freebie site on - Might that support such SEO-friendly cross-linking?

Farewell for now, and cheers for any advice!
(P.S: FireFox on Ubuntu is definitely a damn good browser! We had a power cut whilst I was typing out this post, and after rebooting the machine I found that FireFox had saved it's state at various points...I only had to retype about six words! )

[Sprafik]

Hello, I am currently working towards an iPad, can anyone tell me if the RefCredits from SimpleRefs can be used for referrals with FreebieJeebies? I know that the credits from GetRefs can be used in FJ but I cannot find out if that is the same case with SimpleRefs. If not could you lend your advice or help with me getting more Greens, your help would be much appreciated.

Kindly,

Rafael