Website hosting

[moobsuk]

Heres a webhost that I use, one of the main reasons I use this one is due to the support and also the amount of installers you get!!

A standard package consists of the following:

510GB Webspace
5010 Monthly Data transfer
Unlinted Email accounts
Free domain or domain transfer
Setup is instant

As I mentioned before theres a whole host of Auto installers too here a list of them:
Blogs
Wordpress
Content Management Systems
Drupal V5
E107
Joomla
Joomla V1.5
PHP fusion
Postnuke
Typo3 V4
Discussion Board/Forums
phpBB V1
phpBB V2
phpBB V3
SMF
E-commerce
OS Commerce
Zencart
Groupware
WebCalendar
Guestbooks
Openbook 1.2.2
Image Galleries
Coppermine 1.4.13
Gallery V2
Polls
VzPoll
Wikis
DokuWiki
MediaWiki
PMWiki

So all you have to do is click on the one you want and click the install button tell it where on your domain to install then Voila! all ready to go!

Check out this for a Content Management System IMO its proably one of the best & most user friendly! Joomla!

And for the webhost if anyone is interested goto here Servage Hosting
And just an FYI theres no referral link in my links today

[GiftTake]

This is pure overselling. You will use more then 100GB and your account will get suspended. If your bandwidth usuage reaches 500GB monthly or even less then you will get suspended. If your visitors are using to much CPU Power then your website will be temporarily not working and will show a Busy note.
If you want a reall host try looking for one at FreeWebspace.net - webhosting forum

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But what typical personal user will ever exceed 100GB of storage space and 500Gb bandwith. Unless your running something like facebook and allow users to upload and download video and images of any size, shape and form.

And I guess someone who has written a really bad script that throws a never ending loop could end up using too much CPU power (crashed IIS a few time doing that) but they should really be testing their code on their own PC before uploading to a server. And if they don't they deserve to get a server busy message.

[moobsuk]

Originally Posted by GiftTake

This is pure overselling. You will use more then 100GB and your account will get suspended. If your bandwidth usuage reaches 500GB monthly or even less then you will get suspended. If your visitors are using to much CPU Power then your website will be temporarily not working and will show a Busy note.
If you want a reall host try looking for one at FreeWebspace.net - webhosting forum

And where do you get your information from??? I have used servage for nearly 3 years now and I have never had what you "seem" to say will happen, please before you post something like this again post evidence of what you seem to think.

Also to add its not overselling because if you wished to you could use your account for reselling webspace.

[tronsmith]

moobsuck, what on earth would you need 999 referals for?

[Praj07]

Originally Posted by tronsmith

moobsuck, what on earth would you need 999 referals for?

That's the value for a custom order on the site so it shows up like that on the sig. The actual number is refs needed is alot lower I imagine.

[moobsuk]

Or I may be going for 999

[Adr1an]

get yourself alot and i mean alot for 999 referals :

[GiftTake]

@moobsuk
Well maybe you were lucky and you didn't face any problem but what I said is a fact. There is this site, Sizlopedia.com which uses BlueHost which is very similar to servage and the owner has many, many problems with the host because it is overselling.

If you still don't believe me that this is true then maybe you should ask around at FreeWebSpace.net/forums and you will find out more about these type of hosts.

@-0707-

I guess someone who has written a really bad script that throws a never ending loop could end up using too much CPU power

Well you are wrong. The reason for using to much CPU power would be too many guests visiting your site at a time. It is not about the script, its about the host provider. Hosts similar to servage give you TB's of bandwidth but If you have to many users visitng your site then you will get a Busy message even if you don't use too much bandwidth.
An example of this can be Sizlopedia.com, where the owner had problems with his website because of many visitors.

Once again for everyone on this forum that thinks this is not true or that I have no sources to base my information on then go to www.freewebspace.net/forum create an account and ask people around, the site is about webmastering etc... clever people there.

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Originally Posted by GiftTake

@moobsuk
Well maybe you were lucky and you didn't face any problem but what I said is a fact. There is this site, Sizlopedia.com which uses BlueHost which is very similar to servage and the owner has many, many problems with the host because it is overselling.

If you still don't believe me that this is true then maybe you should ask around at FreeWebSpace.net/forums and you will find out more about these type of hosts.

@-0707-

Well you are wrong. The reason for using to much CPU power would be too many guests visiting your site at a time. It is not about the script, its about the host provider. Hosts similar to servage give you TB's of bandwidth but If you have to many users visitng your site then you will get a Busy message even if you don't use too much bandwidth.
An example of this can be Sizlopedia.com, where the owner had problems with his website because of many visitors.

No I am not wrong. Yes I agree that too many visitors to the site can cause problems, however so can bad scripts.

I'm not sure how bad a problem it is on linux servers, I have not really had much experience of them. I have however had experience of Windows IIS and have crashed servers on several occasions during development when my code ended up in a never-ending loop.

It is in fact a combination of scripts, page size (code, images), visitor numbers and host.

[moobsuk]

Originally Posted by GiftTake

@moobsuk
Well maybe you were lucky and you didn't face any problem but what I said is a fact. There is this site, Sizlopedia.com which uses BlueHost which is very similar to servage and the owner has many, many problems with the host because it is overselling.

If you still don't believe me that this is true then maybe you should ask around at FreeWebSpace.net/forums and you will find out more about these type of hosts.

It has nothing to do with luck, I suggest that you rethink before you post such blatant disregarding comments as you have done, As I have said I have used Servage for approx 3 years and not once have I ever had a problem.

I have even got the company's Website where I work hosted with servage.
And again no problems whatsoever, |Bluehost has absolutely nothing to do with SERVAGE I have checked, if you have had problems with a host in the past well thats just plain unlucky for you, but please refrain from posting negative comments when you clearly do not have evidence of such things!

[GiftTake]

@-0707-
Yes your not wrong that bad scripts can cause high CPU usage, but on overseller sites like BlueHost and Servage they highly limit CPU usage meaning even the good scripts will give you a Busy message if too many visitors access your page.

@moobsuk

Ok, well I don't want to argue with you, I don't know how long you have been with the company but my evidence is FreeWebSpace.net/forums

but please refrain from posting negative comments when you clearly do not have evidence of such things!

I have been around the hosting industry for over a year and a half and I have gained quite a lot of knowledge throughout out different people. Usually the people who do not know much about the hosting industry and only use the service will always argue that oversellers such as Servage are good. And my proof (as I said before) is at: FreeWebspace.net - webhosting forum just look around, read comments and get to know people.

[GiftTake]

Ok, If your lazy and can't be bothered to check the site out, here are just a few real reviews about Servage web host provider:

Take my Advice since i am a former Client of Servage, you are wating your Money.

This resell like hell. Try using 1% of what they promise and your account shall be suspended because of using too many CPU Resources. Read their TOS and AUP and you will find some nice clauses to back them off. The Control Panel doesnt even have a Backup Solution to it.

PLEASE Dont waste your money like i did. Anyway you are not gonna use 110GB or 1110GB in any case.

After i got ripped of my Servage i started getting interested in hosting <<snip>>

Take this from me,
I'm currently with servage..
Pros:
No downtime at all.
Even if there is one,it's like once in a year. An hour or so.

Cons:
You're not given what you're promised 110GB space and 1TB B/W..
Use like 20% of it, see how fast you get suspended.
The support is careless. They don't give heed to their customers.
They just say,you got suspended 'cos you used much resources.Then they reply nothing.

And the servers are slow.
well, I guess I can give servage this award..
The BEST SUPER-OVERSELLER AROUND
Much worse than site ground.
And the so called clustered panel leaves you clueless.

Link: servage.net - FreeWebspace.net

Servage.com -- yet another, run from them too... Too many times people signup and show inflated amounts of traffic being used which isn't possible from proven history on those domains. They don't provide you what they tell you and they ONLY allow you to monitor traffic usage with their inflated graphs so you can't beat the system.

Link: Good offer? - FreeWebspace.net

i doubt it, they count on you not using all of that space, im sure if you used anything close to that they would come up with some excuse to suspend you.

That much space and bandwidth for such a small ammount of money is near impossible, and if they do actually offer it then it wont be very stable...

Personally, I will not go with a overselling host, If I am serious with hosting.
Are you really looking for such a business model?
You need to remember that you will get for what you pay and when you get a lot for a few $$, you will be compromising on something else.

Link: servage.net - FreeWebspace.net

So are you still gonna argue that this is a great quality host? It is ok if you are planning to use no more then 2GB of space and maybe max 50GB Bandwidth but in the long run its the worst and biggest rip off you can ever get. It limits CPU resources to the max.

Still not enough? Go and read some more threads at FreeWebSpace.net/forums or go to another web hosting forum: Web Hosting Talk - The largest, most influential web hosting community on the Internet and take a look there.

[moobsuk]

Well to give you a bit of background info, I have been working in the IT industry for approx 9 years now, of which that includes Hosting, Networking etc etc,

ok heres some links for you to read too then!

Servage.net hosting expereince? | drupal.org

My servage.net review. - Web Hosting Talk - The largest, most influential web hosting community on the Internet

So there ya go have fun

[moobsuk]

Originally Posted by GiftTake

Ok, If your lazy and can't be bothered to check the site out, here are just a few real reviews about Servage web host provider:

I do hope the lazy bit is not aimed directly at me

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Originally Posted by GiftTake

@-0707-
Yes your not wrong that bad scripts can cause high CPU usage, but on overseller sites like BlueHost and Servage they highly limit CPU usage meaning even the good scripts will give you a Busy message if too many visitors access your page.
I have been around the hosting industry for over a year and a half and I have gained quite a lot of knowledge throughout out different people. Usually the people who do not know much about the hosting industry and only use the service will always argue that oversellers such as Servage are good. And my proof (as I said before) is at: FreeWebspace.net - webhosting forum just look around, read comments and get to know people.

That will happen on any site if you get too many visitors. I think what you are trying to say is that what your server limit is, CPU power, bandwidth is what you get if no one else is using theirs.

Also people who haven't had any problems are going to argue for a host, people who have had problems are going to argue against a host. moobs obviously has had no problems with his hosting as will lots of others using "oversellers". It is the few who will actually have signed up with the host because they need the disk space, bandwith and CPU time that is offered.

[GiftTake]

Originally Posted by moobsuk

I do hope the lazy bit is not aimed directly at me

No , but anyway rofl you proved yourself wrong....
You posted this link: Servage.net hosting expereince? | drupal.org as your proof, and If you scroll down a little at the list then you will see this:

Servage is a total FAILURE
bizaro - February 16, 2008 - 20:27
I have a hosting account at servage.net and it turned out to be a big SCAM, they took my money and suspended my

account.
Reason: " At this time today our servers have
served more than 428456 requests for your account."
That's nowhere in the terms of service, and they even don't want to refund me.

This service is only ok for small websites, when you have more than 200-300 users daily, they will surly suspend the

account to keep their servers running.

I advice other hosting purchaser to STAY AWAY from servage if you want a professional and reliable hosting service

and not a service that shuts down your service when they want to.

Servage is no longer good
safknw - February 17, 2008 - 15:30
After using for more than 10 months, now servage is no longer good. performance of site is getting down and down. Even fresh install of drupal takes more than 1 min to load.
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I've been with Servage.net
gestroud - February 21, 2008 - 14:27
I've been with Servage.net for 3 months, as of February 2008. My sites have been innaccessible 5 times during that period. Entire sites were "unable to be found on the server. SITES, not files.

Responses to support tickets say, "We're aware of the problem. Please be patient."

Once I couldn't access any sites for over 8 hours.

Whenever I have asked them what caused the problem, I get no response.

There are also frequent database connection problems.

Another negative is their 5-day money back guarantee. There is no pro-rating. Once you sign up with them, you're stuck - unless you get smart and decide to change hosts.

I am changing hosts.

Bottom line. Servage is a webmaster's nightmare.

And on your WebHostingTalk.com there's at least one person stating that the support or the host itself actualy isn't to good.

[GiftTake]

Originally Posted by -0707-

That will happen on any site if you get too many visitors. I think what you are trying to say is that what your server limit is, CPU power, bandwidth is what you get if no one else is using theirs.

Also people who haven't had any problems are going to argue for a host, people who have had problems are going to argue against a host. moobs obviously has had no problems with his hosting as will lots of others using "oversellers". It is the few who will actually have signed up with the host because they need the disk space, bandwith and CPU time that is offered.

Yes ok but oversellers are spoiling the web hosting market worldwide for the real and reliable hosts out there.

[moobsuk]

well the next time i want to post something that is useful to others maybe il run it past you first...........

Oh and yes I am being sarcastic.

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Originally Posted by GiftTake

So are you still gonna argue that this is a great quality host? It is ok if you are planning to use no more then 2GB of space and maybe max 50GB Bandwidth

Exactly, thats my argument. Most personal websites will never use the max amount of disk space, bandwidth or CPU time. And this is obviously how "oversellers" get away with it.

And yeah they possibly are ruining the market but not everyone has the time or the inclination to investigate web hosting. And in a few years things could swing back and the masses realise the real hosts (as you call them) provide what they promise and oversellers will suffer.