New iPhone added...

[Tab]

Originally Posted by harvez

Reading more into this, I would seriously think twice before jumping into the iphone giveaway for the new referrals, until there is 100% concrete information you can get the iphones (without us signing up to a contract) then I would change your site to reflect the fact a contract is required (nothing says you need a contract on iphone.giveaway) If not then you are offering an iphone under false pretense and the new referal rates are going to lure people in quickly.

Just my thoughts with the information I have.

Not quite sure how you would be "offering an iphone under false pretences"? You need to take out a contract with the current iPhone.... There is no PAYG now, yet no one has asked me to add the fact that you need a contract to the site in the whole time the iPhone site has been running. Not exactly sure what has changed to be honest. Obviously I realise that you can modify the iPhone to work with payg sims and other networks, but that is not exactly a standard feature and the majority of users will not know this. For all we know that might still be possible with the 3g model, so as far as I can see nothing has changed....

If it does turn out that you can not physically leave the shop with out signing a contract (I really doubt this as it cuts out a very large portion of the iPhone buying population, for example business buyers and even those people just wanting to buy the iPhone as a present for someone), then I wll be offering a paypal or voucher alternative just like every other network.

I really don't understand why you think people should not use iPhone.Giveaway, they are gonna get exactly what they sign up for, either the iPhone or a cash equivalent?

Tab

[FurbtasticM]

Originally Posted by harvez

Reading more into this, I would seriously think twice before jumping into the iphone giveaway for the new referrals, until there is 100% concrete information you can get the iphones (without us signing up to a contract) then I would change your site to reflect the fact a contract is required (nothing says you need a contract on iphone.giveaway) If not then you are offering an iphone under false pretense and the new referal rates are going to lure people in quickly.

Just my thoughts with the information I have.

I can see where you are coming from Harvez but your own site is promoting a "free iphone 2 3G unlocked no contract"

(Before you say it, yeah, I know that mine still does on search results but the code/content has been changed, just waiting for the Google bot to stop on by!)

[Harvez]

under false pretences is perhaps the wrong wording. what i mean is that with the iphone 3g being only signup in shop only atm, where as before u could walk away and sign up at home, not advising people not to use giveaway as to will be continuing my iphone.giveaway once i have reached my target with FJ.

[FurbtasticM]

Originally Posted by Tab

Good points.. let me have a think about it.

Tab

Any thoughts?

[nizmo]

Just found this, Stuff EXCLUSIVE – £370 for PAYG iPhone 3G

[bmh16]

Not official...

[Blazer]

I have an inside man in Carphone Warehouse, these are the prices he game me:
Pay As You Go - 8GB: £359.99
16GB: 399.99
Contract £45 pm - 8GB: FREE
16GB: £50

[rider900]

so these new iphones will be contact? when is the pay as you go model coming out? and how many refs will it be Tab? cos of the low ref numbers i am seriously considering signing up! Thanks

[Praj07]

yeh they will be on contract but chances are you'll be able to unlock them and put your own sim in soon enough so defo worth getting one - make sure you trade or sign up to the conga if you decide to go for it

[delude]

Tab, if I was to sign up now to try and go for an iPhone, but say had less than 5 referrals and you found out that you had to increase them a bit, what would happen? Would I be able to get the few needed to make 5, or have to get more?

[Blazer]

The new iphones will be on pay as you go. It comes out on contract and Pay As You go this Friday, 11th July

[rider900]

Originally Posted by Praj07

yeh they will be on contract but chances are you'll be able to unlock them and put your own sim in soon enough so defo worth getting one - make sure you trade or sign up to the conga if you decide to go for it

right but is it free to unlock your iphone? and by i noticed on RI that i think it was 19 refs for the 16gb iphone 3g on it's own but 17 refs for the 16gb iphone 3g but with a headset???? how does that work out? and can someone explain congas to me plz i don't get it? thanks p.s r u sure the pay as you go model comes out on the 11th july?

[Praj07]

yeh you will probably be able to unlock the new iphone for free - defo worth going for this one rather than the payg model methinks

[rider900]

ok where can you get your iphone 3g unlocked??? and what do you mean by that? the pay as you go models r the same as the contract models aren't they???? so wouldn't it be easier to get the contract model for less refs and then unlock it??

[Praj07]

yes it would be easier to get the contract one and unlock it because it's less refs

you can download programs off the net that let you unlock your iphone in minutes, wait until it's out and you'll be able to find out more info on it

[rider900]

ok then, will do that i joined apple.giveaway today! i'll start collecting the 7 refs for the 16gb one i want. One last question..... those iphones on apple.giveaway are the contract models aren't they?

[NYCSavage]

Any chance we can use a custom order on our nextgen accounts to get these?

I have all the nextgen consoles and have already completed my offer on NextGen. I hope so, as I can unlock these and I have been asking the missus to get me one since my birthday last August!

[FurbtasticM]

Originally Posted by FurbtasticM

For anyone else whose account is ongoing, maybe offer iTunes vouchers for the additional referrals. If someone had 4 greens and 10 pendings and had been going for the old 14 referral phone, it would be a bit unfair to lose/waste 7 of those referrals? Would they deserve some iTunes vouchers to make up for it? Or maybe not if they get the phone anyway?

So, there you have it, I've proved that asking the question is easier than finding a solution!

Originally Posted by Tab

Good points.. let me have a think about it.

Tab

Part of the reason I asked is that one of my mates from work is in this situation. He reckons he had all his referrals before the rates changed but quite a few were LOVEFiLM pendings and he couldn't verifiy until Sunday just gone.

He aparently verified with 16 greens but only needs 7 but in response to his support ticket, he was told that GA can change products/referrals as they see fit - that is fine and he will be happy if he gets a new 16gb iPhone but what if those are not available. It would be harsh to get £140 in vouchers when the referrals for the original 16gb phone would have got him £329.

As I said, the key point as I see it is that he says he got the referrals before the rates changed.

What is the official line Tab?

[Dunstan]

Originally Posted by FurbtasticM

Part of the reason I asked is that one of my mates from work is in this situation. He reckons he had all his referrals before the rates changed but quite a few were LOVEFiLM pendings and he couldn't verifiy until Sunday just gone.

He aparently verified with 16 greens but only needs 7 but in response to his support ticket, he was told that GA can change products/referrals as they see fit - that is fine and he will be happy if he gets a new 16gb iPhone but what if those are not available. It would be harsh to get £140 in vouchers when the referrals for the original 16gb phone would have got him £329.

As I said, the key point as I see it is that he says he got the referrals before the rates changed.

What is the official line Tab?

Exactly the same position, I've had 16 referrals for months but only just verified.

[Tab]

Originally Posted by FurbtasticM

Part of the reason I asked is that one of my mates from work is in this situation. He reckons he had all his referrals before the rates changed but quite a few were LOVEFiLM pendings and he couldn't verifiy until Sunday just gone.

He aparently verified with 16 greens but only needs 7 but in response to his support ticket, he was told that GA can change products/referrals as they see fit - that is fine and he will be happy if he gets a new 16gb iPhone but what if those are not available. It would be harsh to get £140 in vouchers when the referrals for the original 16gb phone would have got him £329.

As I said, the key point as I see it is that he says he got the referrals before the rates changed.

What is the official line Tab?

Waiting for the word from Apple before laying down plans on this. People who got the old amount of greens will not go without compensation don't worry...

Tab