UK General Election 2010 - Exceem POLL.

[ainsleee]

So I thought it would be quite interesting to see how this turns out, so just vote for who you want to win the UK General Election 2010 and if you must, leave a post below stating why.

Im still unsure as to who to vote for, but at the moment what really effects me is the proposed withdrawal of the Welsh Assembly tuition fee grant in Wales backed by labour, however the Conservatives or Liberal Democrats oppose this.

[bmh16]

I wrote this elsewhere a few weeks ago:

Without a doubt the Tories. Here's why: labour are a mess at the moment and have been in for 3 terms now. Now any party that has been in for over 2 terms needs out and anyone knows why this is though i'm not so sure from reading a few of these replies who seem without an idea. And let's face it i'm sure most people in this country don't know enough to vote but still do. There are 3 options in front of us; vote Labour, vote Tories, vote Lib Dems. I'm never voting Lib Dems, they can afford to talk a huge amount and for this they sound good, they won't get in, if they did this country'll be a mess. Besides Clegg is not leader material, nor is Brown who is one of our worst PM's we've had. Cameron is weak too but it's the best option. I hate how people refer back to the past on why they won't vote Tory. Simple as without Thatcher this country would be a huge amount worse off now. Sure she wasn't all great, but what she did to our country was all 100% importance.

I hate some of Labour's policies in remembering the poor and forgetting the richer forgetting the rich WORK to where they get to. I wouldn't mind it so much if Labour actually put some good policies in to place for the poorer as we all know a lot do need help. But EMA is one of the worst schemes i have ever known. 95% of people who get it waste it on nights out and things which are not essential. Sure some people need it and spend it on things needed but it makes me sick to see people with money to burn when i get given nothing by my parents in a family of 4 (with 2 already in Uni and me going next year so money is very tight) so i have to work for every bit of money i get. My mate gets the full whack of £30 a week yet he is known to be rich and gets huge amounts from his Uncle. EMA should be reassesed completely if it is to be a respected policy and any party supporting the current setup i will never vote for. Perhaps basing it more on children per household with family income is immediately a far better scheme and it can be improve on a huge amount for those who need it and i respect that some of the minority do need it.

Economy wise i don't trust Labour or Tories but i am thoroughly against how Labour dealt with the banks nationalising them. Each taxpayer now has a £26k debt. Sure if we let Lloyds and the other bank i forget the name of down other banks could have followed leaving a huge crisis. BUT the economy is still on the brink, and i have heard an economist my father knows saying that American banks can still go down. If that happens the banks in the UK still can go down but at the cost of a huge debt we have too currently. I would only trust Vince Cable with our economy. He predicted this may happen and is the only one with actual sense. The other 2 are out of their depth which leads me to ask the question why the hell is he with the Lib Dems when he is never realistically going to get in to office. Shame he is the only Lib Dem of worth.

That's a couple of issues i was considering anyway. I will certainly be voting Tory, it's the only option. I wouldn't be paid to vote Labour and Lib Dems won't get in.

Though the last bit about the Lib Dems, who knows now, if Clegg can give two more brilliant showings in the upcoming debates you never know, however i feel the more votes they get the more likely we get a hung parliament which is bad, very bad imo. I don't know why Plaid and SNP are there seeing as you can't vote them for the UK elections. UKIP should be there too as they are probably the 4th biggest party and the Greens aren't small too. But then again that's what Other can count for! Should be a fascinating few weeks though and i am looking forward the other debates coming up!

[williamblah]

Anyone else think it's horrible that two of the people in this forum are either rascist or ignorant?

Also, Ben, I entirely entirely agree with you in that EMA is a complete bag of crap, however you base almost half the reasoning behind your Tory vote on it, and you say "any party supporting the current setup i will never vote for." Don't you think this is a bit silly? It's a relatively small policy, and any reform will have little effect upon the country compared to other policy changes. It is a waste of taxpayers money, sure, but it's such a small proportion that it seems weird to feel that strongly about something. It almost feels like not bothering comparing which company gives you the cheapest loan, but just choosing the one that gives you free sweets when you visit. I hope you don't read this as a personal dig, by the way - When things get into the realms of running the country, debate is ALWAYS healthy!

In terms of where I stand vote-wise, I am really unsure. Although I am fairly free market in my thinking, I disagree with a large number of both labour and tory policies. In terms of individual policy support, I gel better with Lib Dems, but they really won't be able to run the country.

[bmh16]

Originally Posted by williamblah

Anyone else think it's horrible that two of the people in this forum are either rascist or ignorant?

Also, Ben, I entirely entirely agree with you in that EMA is a complete bag of crap, however you base almost half the reasoning behind your Tory vote on it, and you say "any party supporting the current setup i will never vote for." Don't you think this is a bit silly? It's a relatively small policy, and any reform will have little effect upon the country compared to other policy changes. It is a waste of taxpayers money, sure, but it's such a small proportion that it seems weird to feel that strongly about something. It almost feels like not bothering comparing which company gives you the cheapest loan, but just choosing the one that gives you free sweets when you visit. I hope you don't read this as a personal dig, by the way - When things get into the realms of running the country, debate is ALWAYS healthy!

In terms of where I stand vote-wise, I am really unsure. Although I am fairly free market in my thinking, I disagree with a large number of both labour and tory policies. In terms of individual policy support, I gel better with Lib Dems, but they really won't be able to run the country.

You are right, voting just on the basis of one policy is silly and i overreacted with my statement. But either way we need a Government which isn't Labour in. A lot of people vote Labour just because they think they are a socialist left wing party. Well they aren't any more and haven't been for years. As stated initially Governments get corrupted if in office for too long. Anything over 2 terms is too long for the same Government imo.

[Simmo]

Originally Posted by williamblah

Anyone else think it's horrible that two of the people in this forum are either rascist or ignorant?

Also, Ben, I entirely entirely agree with you in that EMA is a complete bag of crap, however you base almost half the reasoning behind your Tory vote on it, and you say "any party supporting the current setup i will never vote for." Don't you think this is a bit silly? It's a relatively small policy, and any reform will have little effect upon the country compared to other policy changes. It is a waste of taxpayers money, sure, but it's such a small proportion that it seems weird to feel that strongly about something. It almost feels like not bothering comparing which company gives you the cheapest loan, but just choosing the one that gives you free sweets when you visit. I hope you don't read this as a personal dig, by the way - When things get into the realms of running the country, debate is ALWAYS healthy!

In terms of where I stand vote-wise, I am really unsure. Although I am fairly free market in my thinking, I disagree with a large number of both labour and tory policies. In terms of individual policy support, I gel better with Lib Dems, but they really won't be able to run the country.

no, lots of normal people vote bnp who arent 'racist or ignorant'

I'm voting tory fwiw. Most people on this forum arent old enough to vote tbf.

[Snave]

With the state of the country at the moment I'm not sure it matters who the hell we vote for. If say Lib Dem was to get in this time but then voted out at the next election - is the time they'll have had in power anywhere enough to see much change?

Whilst Labour hasn't been the greatest, I just cannot bring myself to vote for the Tories. They seem so out of touch with actual British life and David Cameron couldn't look more sly if he donned a fox mask.

I guess I'll vote Labour, although I'd be happy with a hung government between them and Lib Dems. But until the Conservatives move away from the 'we've all been passed down money from our mummy's and daddy's' superior, snobby attitude they will never get my vote.

[oXoDCoXo]

in my area BNP got more votes than conservitives last time, i can see alot of people voting BNP in my area in this election... alot more than last time

[Simmo]

I don't understand why people vote labour. Just look at the state of this country atm, you want to keep the government in who did this? If you don't want to vote Tory then vote lib dem not ****ing labour.

[cava2610]

why would people vote bnp? u need ur head tested

[Simmo]

because some people feel out of touch with modern british society?

[ainsleee]

Simmo, granted labour has not helped matters, but with the current economic climate I dont think any other party could have done any better.

This has been a bad recession but you can not put the blame entirely on the labour government. I cant see nothing else wrong with this country other than high fuel duty and NHS waiting lists. So id say labour have done quite well :P

Im not voting labour by the way :P

Also people vote the BNP because the BNP have very strong immigration policy's which is a very big issue that everyone wants sorted in this country. Not everyone who votes BNP is a racist arrogant British Nazi.....

[nim3]

Lib Dems or Labour...If the Tories get voted in they will plunge the country to even lower depths.

Regarding the BNP they ARE a racist party, but I dont think everyone who votes for them is a racist...their just stupid (IMHO)- as they really have no idea what the party really stands for.

[cava2610]

BNP are a racist party. You cant deny that.

Immigration is bad but how is nick griffin going to help by getting rid of people that actually help this country. nurses, doctors, firemen, policemen. The list goes on, im not saying everyone in the bnp is racist but the party is.


Dont deny it



Dick griffin is a joke

[oXoDCoXo]

Originally Posted by cava2610

why would people vote bnp? u need ur head tested

are you saying I need my head tested or that people that vote BNP need their headtesting ?

[bmh16]

Originally Posted by nim3

Lib Dems or Labour...If the Tories get voted in they will plunge the country to even lower depths.

Regarding the BNP they ARE a racist party, but I dont think everyone who votes for them is a racist...their just stupid (IMHO)- as they really have no idea what the party really stands for.

I know people who are far more knowledgable than most people on politics who vote BNP. I can see why people want to vote them. I wouldn't, but either way we have free speech in this country and anyone should be allowed to stand for election and be voted without any hassle.

BTW, can you care to explain why the Tories would bring our country to even lower depths, don't really understand that one, would like an explanation on why you think because Labour have done a pretty bad job themselves. Whilst i don't rest the blame soley on them as any party couldn't have come out of that recession without doing any wrong. Either way i think the way they dealt with it was bad - Each taxpayer in the UK has a £26k debt on their shoulders. Also the banks should have been monitored far closer and already straight after the Government saves them the people at the top are getting huge bonuses again. Not sure who's to blame there but it's bloody disgusting after we as taxpayers bailed them out.

Nationalising the banks may have done us good in the short term, but in the long term as i stated we have a huge debt as a country and on top of that the banks are still on the verge in America. If they go again, then more banks will fail in the UK and nationalising them done no good, just it's given the country a huge debt. Letting the banks go down would have been a better long term solution. But Labour are so concerned with getting in for another term they take the short term solution which will leave our country in dire straits in the future possibly. I'm just really annoyed that people don't see the bad Labour have done us potentially and continue to vote them like they have done our country a huge favour!

[nim3]

The Tories want to be voted in and yet they dont tell us what their policies are. They say theyll make the necessary cuts, but dont tell us in what areas! Why is it so difficult to explain what your policies are? I wont vote for a party that has no idea what their own policies are and who dont have a plan as to how their going to run the country.

Labour havent done a brilliant job, but they did deal with the recession reasonably well. The UK wasnt the only country affected by the recession it was a worldwide problem stemming from the banks in the USA. If we'd let the banks go down we would have been in an even deeper recession, nationalising was the right thing to do in my opinion.

I will be voting Lib Dem as I agee with their ideas and policies and think its about time for a change.

[ainsleee]

Ben, I hate to say it man, but historically the conservatives look after the rich, and forget about the poor, there is no denying it. Id rather not let them run the country for this reason alone.

Labour have done a bad job granted, but if the tories get in the country will just end up in more of a mess.

If Tony Blair didnt go to war he would still be in ...BRING BACK TONY BLAIR!

Id happily vote for any other party apart from the conservative and the BNP.

[bmh16]

Originally Posted by ainsleee

Ben, I hate to say it man, but historically the conservatives look after the rich, and forget about the poor, there is no denying it. Id rather not let them run the country for this reason alone.

Labour have done a bad job granted, but if the tories get in the country will just end up in more of a mess.

If Tony Blair didnt go to war he would still be in ...BRING BACK TONY BLAIR!

Id happily vote for any other party apart from the conservative and the BNP.

In fairness it's been 14 years since they've been in office. What people forget, and i'm not having a dig here at the poorer people who work bloody hard, is that the rich work to where they are. And the jobs aren't easy by any stretch of the imagination. Why should some of the poorer people get rewarded and get more for the rich people's hard work?

I don't see how our country could get into a worse mess with the tories in at all, Labour have done their best to mess this up completely for us long term.

Originally Posted by nim3

The Tories want to be voted in and yet they dont tell us what their policies are. They say theyll make the necessary cuts, but dont tell us in what areas! Why is it so difficult to explain what your policies are? I wont vote for a party that has no idea what their own policies are and who dont have a plan as to how their going to run the country.

Labour havent done a brilliant job, but they did deal with the recession reasonably well. The UK wasnt the only country affected by the recession it was a worldwide problem stemming from the banks in the USA. If we'd let the banks go down we would have been in an even deeper recession, nationalising was the right thing to do in my opinion.

I will be voting Lib Dem as I agee with their ideas and policies and think its about time for a change.

Do you even know what the Lib Dems stand for? I'm sure a lot of people don't see. Because they have suddenly become popular after one 90 minute tv debate. They haven't done a brilliant job no, i explained why they had done such a damn bad job. The tories policies are as concrete as the other partys, i don't really understand what you mean there. Labour are lying through their teeth. They said they aren't cutting in any of the public servies or education which is impossible really. Mark my words if they get back in they won't keep to the promise.

[FurbtasticM]

Originally Posted by Simmo

because some people feel out of touch with modern british society?

Or maybe the the modern British society isn't how a lot of people want it to be?

[Simmo]

Originally Posted by FurbtasticM

Or maybe the the modern British society isn't how a lot of people want it to be?

I blame the bogus asylum seekers