Your opinion on gun control.

stewieY · 25-02-10, 05:40 AM

*This is a duplicate thread. I couldn't edit the other so made this one.

I'm wondering everyone's opinion on gun control.

As for me, I am against gun control but do believe in minor restrictions.

Clarification on the options:

Citizens should not be allowed to have guns - Simple. No citizens should have access to firearms.
I think citizens should be allowed guns, but with heavy restrictions. - Stuff like mandatory gun registration, mandatory background checks, no handguns, low capacity magazines only, no assault-rifles, must be properly locked and unloaded for storing & transportation, no Concealed or Open carry, etc.
I think citizens should be allowed guns, but with moderate restrictions. - Gun registration, Background checks, required permits to carry(concealed or open), 21+ age limit to carry, etc.
I think citizens should be allowed guns, but with minor restrictions. - Permit to concealed carry, 18+ age limit to open carry, etc.
I think anyone should be allowed guns and that guns should be treated like any other common item. - No special laws for firearms.

And feel free to explain in a post if my vague options don't quite describe what you feel.

bmh16 · 25-02-10, 11:30 PM

People find guns easily enough, if you're in a gang you will find links on how to find them. I remember a report on BBC news which showed the easiness of getting a gun if you lived in a part in London.

I think heavy restrictions on it all only, but you can't use it for self defence so i guess it's ridiculous (the fact you get in trouble by injuring a robber is disgraceful).

tronsmith · 27-02-10, 12:47 AM

Most people here are from the UK so the general opinion will be very anti-guns. Over here guns aren't common at all. I have never known anyone to own one (other than air rifles).

The US is in such a bad situation with guns being freelly avai8lable that an outright ban wouldn't be benefitial at all.

joewarne · 27-02-10, 12:49 AM

No guns = no death by guns

stewieY · 27-02-10, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by joewarne

No guns = no death by guns

You know, that is 100% true.

But I promise you gun control does not get rid of every gun.
I'd estimate if the USA had a nation-wide gun ban that only %60-%70 would be taken off the streets, disarming law-abiding citizens and giving criminals free reign.

tronsmith · 28-02-10, 05:30 PM

That's why it's too late for the US, Stewie. In the UKGun control has always been very tight and because of it there is very, very little gun crime.

A Baby · 16-07-10, 09:44 PM

The problem with gun control is is only controls the good people from getting guns, bad people will still get them illegally and that is where the problem lies.

Superdad200 · 16-07-10, 10:18 PM

I dont want the UK to end up like the US where you can buy guns from almost anywhere, and this is exactly what would end up happening.

oXoDCoXo · 16-07-10, 11:33 PM

we should be allowed to shoot people if they are breaking in or generaly shoot em in self defense

give us all a 12 bore

macaddy · 18-07-10, 05:26 PM

Gun control only works for the law abiding people who wouldn't shoot anyone anyway!

I don't see why anyone actually needs a gun though!

Moofassa · 18-07-10, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by macaddy

Gun control only works for the law abiding people who wouldn't shoot anyone anyway!

I don't see why anyone actually needs a gun though!

Pest control like rabbits/foxes, game shooting, sport shooting (like target shooting for clubs)?

Harvez · 18-07-10, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tronsmith

That's why it's too late for the US, Stewie. In the UKGun control has always been very tight and because of it there is very, very little gun crime.

Not seen the news the past few years then

"Guns don't kill people, people kill people".

the joker · 18-07-10, 08:18 PM

I think that citizens should be allowed to get guns but with really heavy restrictions...

Moofassa · 18-07-10, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harvez

Not seen the news the past few years then

"Guns don't kill people, people kill people".

EXACTLY. Firearms are tools, used for certain tasks like I have outlined above. Any tool can be misused - and if its not guns, it will be something else. If you use the same logic - Should be outlaw all knives as well?

the joker · 18-07-10, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Moofassa

If you use the same logic - Should be outlaw all knives as well?

Totally agree ... screwdrivers , hammers , ... all of them can be used to kill people

Zazizizou · 19-07-10, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Moofassa

EXACTLY. Firearms are tools, used for certain tasks like I have outlined above. Any tool can be misused - and if its not guns, it will be something else. If you use the same logic - Should be outlaw all knives as well?

Nope! The problem is that guns are made only to kill. Knives on the other hand are made to help people eat and survive (survive may include to kill though)

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Originally Posted by Harvez

"Guns don't kill people, people kill people".

Guns don't kill people, people kill people... with guns

And that's the BIG difference, when you say gun, you think about To Kill. When you say knife, To Kill becomes a secondary thought... Same with crimes

Xiagaton · 20-07-10, 09:48 PM

The reason why gun control laws are put in place is not to lower killings , its just to make people weaker , so they are less likely to fight , weaker and more managable , as even look at the laws themselves they are ridculas , if you read them properly , youll find out they can charge you , if you holding a gun , for a crime you haven't commit yet , proposing your going to commit a crime because you have a gun , but with not evidence to support the claim.

lso anything can be turned into a weopon is nessecary anyway , due to human nature being naturally evil and all , we can practically turn a sheet paper into a weopon , (I'm not listing how or what weopons) the most deadly weopon any human possessess is their mind and body , take every well known weopon away from a man , and he'll still find a way to make a new one if he wants to.

Dwana · 21-03-11, 05:11 AM

I'm new to Exceem and I'm just looking around the forum to see which threads I'd like to comment on. This one is really interesting since Exceem is in the UK so there's a British attitude here toward things like gun control, an attitude that differs considerably from the American attitude. Some of the comments here seem to reveal a misunderstanding of the gun situation in America. I'll try to clarify things.

Yes, America has more gun deaths than the UK, but that's NOT because Americans are a bunch of trigger happy Neanderthals shooting at anything that moves. American gun deaths need to be put in perspective.

In 2004, the latest year for which I could find statistics, around 30,000 Americans were killed by guns. That's a frightening statistic, but lets break it down. Of those 30,000 deaths, over 16,000 were suicides. Suicides are tragic, but they aren't crimes. Gun homicides numbered a little over 10,000. The rest of the deaths were accidents of one kind or another. No matter what the circumstance, 30,000 gun deaths are horrific to gun control advocates and, yes, they are horrific. But we must remember that those deaths occur in a country with 40,000,000 gun owners owning about 100,000,000 guns.

100,000,000 guns owned by private citizens and only 30,000 deaths a year, over half of which are suicides. In other words, unless you kill yourself you're pretty safe from gun violence in America, despite all the guns. Just like you're pretty safe from dying in a car accident, despite all the cars. Just thought I'd throw this out there for people to think about.

Harvez · 21-03-11, 08:38 AM

Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

Ojaser6 · 21-03-11, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwana

I'm new to Exceem and I'm just looking around the forum to see which threads I'd like to comment on. This one is really interesting since Exceem is in the UK so there's a British attitude here toward things like gun control, an attitude that differs considerably from the American attitude. Some of the comments here seem to reveal a misunderstanding of the gun situation in America. I'll try to clarify things.

Yes, America has more gun deaths than the UK, but that's NOT because Americans are a bunch of trigger happy Neanderthals shooting at anything that moves. American gun deaths need to be put in perspective.

In 2004, the latest year for which I could find statistics, around 30,000 Americans were killed by guns. That's a frightening statistic, but lets break it down. Of those 30,000 deaths, over 16,000 were suicides. Suicides are tragic, but they aren't crimes. Gun homicides numbered a little over 10,000. The rest of the deaths were accidents of one kind or another. No matter what the circumstance, 30,000 gun deaths are horrific to gun control advocates and, yes, they are horrific. But we must remember that those deaths occur in a country with 40,000,000 gun owners owning about 100,000,000 guns.

100,000,000 guns owned by private citizens and only 30,000 deaths a year, over half of which are suicides. In other words, unless you kill yourself you're pretty safe from gun violence in America, despite all the guns. Just like you're pretty safe from dying in a car accident, despite all the cars. Just thought I'd throw this out there for people to think about.

Quite an old thread you bumped there! I completely forgot it existed!!

My opinion has changed a bit though. Based on the fact that there have been so many shootings in the US lately, I think we should put heavy restrictions on guns.

View Poll Results: What do you think of gun control?
Citizens should not be allowed to have guns.	17	56.67%
I think citizens should be allowed guns, but with heavy restrictions.	4	13.33%
I think citizens should be allowed guns, but with moderate restrictions.	4	13.33%
I think citizens should be allowed guns, but with minor restrictions.	5	16.67%
I think anyone should be allowed guns and that guns should be treated like any other common item.	0	0%
Voters: 30. You may not vote on this poll

25-02-10, 05:40 AM	#1
stewieY iPod Nano 1GB Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Utah, USA Posts: 49	Your opinion on gun control. This is a duplicate thread. I couldn't edit the other so made this one. I'm wondering everyone's opinion on gun control. As for me, I am against gun control but do believe in minor restrictions. Clarification on the options:* Citizens should not be allowed to have guns - Simple. No citizens should have access to firearms. I think citizens should be allowed guns, but with heavy restrictions. - Stuff like mandatory gun registration, mandatory background checks, no handguns, low capacity magazines only, no assault-rifles, must be properly locked and unloaded for storing & transportation, no Concealed or Open carry, etc. I think citizens should be allowed guns, but with moderate restrictions. - Gun registration, Background checks, required permits to carry(concealed or open), 21+ age limit to carry, etc. I think citizens should be allowed guns, but with minor restrictions. - Permit to concealed carry, 18+ age limit to open carry, etc. I think anyone should be allowed guns and that guns should be treated like any other common item. - No special laws for firearms. And feel free to explain in a post if my vague options don't quite describe what you feel.

25-02-10, 11:30 PM	#2
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16-07-10, 11:33 PM	#9
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27-02-10, 12:47 AM	#3
tronsmith iPod 60gb Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brighton Posts: 1,663	Most people here are from the UK so the general opinion will be very anti-guns. Over here guns aren't common at all. I have never known anyone to own one (other than air rifles). The US is in such a bad situation with guns being freelly avai8lable that an outright ban wouldn't be benefitial at all.

27-02-10, 12:49 AM	#4
joewarne Mini Mac Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Great Yarmouth Posts: 4,742	No guns = no death by guns

28-02-10, 05:30 PM	#6
tronsmith iPod 60gb Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brighton Posts: 1,663	That's why it's too late for the US, Stewie. In the UKGun control has always been very tight and because of it there is very, very little gun crime.

16-07-10, 09:44 PM	#7
A Baby iPod Shuffle Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5	The problem with gun control is is only controls the good people from getting guns, bad people will still get them illegally and that is where the problem lies.

16-07-10, 10:18 PM	#8
Superdad200 iPod 20gb Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 721	I dont want the UK to end up like the US where you can buy guns from almost anywhere, and this is exactly what would end up happening.

18-07-10, 05:26 PM	#10
macaddy iPod Shuffle Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 7	Gun control only works for the law abiding people who wouldn't shoot anyone anyway! I don't see why anyone actually needs a gun though!

18-07-10, 08:18 PM	#13
the joker iBook Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Location : Location Posts: 2,491	I think that citizens should be allowed to get guns but with really heavy restrictions...

20-07-10, 09:48 PM	#17
Xiagaton iPod Shuffle Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 11	The reason why gun control laws are put in place is not to lower killings , its just to make people weaker , so they are less likely to fight , weaker and more managable , as even look at the laws themselves they are ridculas , if you read them properly , youll find out they can charge you , if you holding a gun , for a crime you haven't commit yet , proposing your going to commit a crime because you have a gun , but with not evidence to support the claim. lso anything can be turned into a weopon is nessecary anyway , due to human nature being naturally evil and all , we can practically turn a sheet paper into a weopon , (I'm not listing how or what weopons) the most deadly weopon any human possessess is their mind and body , take every well known weopon away from a man , and he'll still find a way to make a new one if he wants to.

21-03-11, 05:11 AM	#18
Dwana iPod Shuffle Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 28	I'm new to Exceem and I'm just looking around the forum to see which threads I'd like to comment on. This one is really interesting since Exceem is in the UK so there's a British attitude here toward things like gun control, an attitude that differs considerably from the American attitude. Some of the comments here seem to reveal a misunderstanding of the gun situation in America. I'll try to clarify things. Yes, America has more gun deaths than the UK, but that's NOT because Americans are a bunch of trigger happy Neanderthals shooting at anything that moves. American gun deaths need to be put in perspective. In 2004, the latest year for which I could find statistics, around 30,000 Americans were killed by guns. That's a frightening statistic, but lets break it down. Of those 30,000 deaths, over 16,000 were suicides. Suicides are tragic, but they aren't crimes. Gun homicides numbered a little over 10,000. The rest of the deaths were accidents of one kind or another. No matter what the circumstance, 30,000 gun deaths are horrific to gun control advocates and, yes, they are horrific. But we must remember that those deaths occur in a country with 40,000,000 gun owners owning about 100,000,000 guns. 100,000,000 guns owned by private citizens and only 30,000 deaths a year, over half of which are suicides. In other words, unless you kill yourself you're pretty safe from gun violence in America, despite all the guns. Just like you're pretty safe from dying in a car accident, despite all the cars. Just thought I'd throw this out there for people to think about.