Should Hacker be Extradited?

TheDoctor · 07-12-09, 09:46 AM

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The Glasgow-born systems administrator, who attended Highgate Wood Secondary School in north London, is accused of hacking into 97 United States military and NASA computers in 2001 and 2002, using the name 'Solo'. The computer networks he is accused of hacking include networks owned by NASA, the US Army, US Navy, Department of Defense, and the US Air Force.

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Please watch the youtube video before answering.
Do you think Should he be extradited for his crimes?

Harvez · 07-12-09, 10:00 AM

the point of the debate is you also post your own views and why.

TheDoctor · 07-12-09, 10:08 AM

Well ok i was gonna wait for others but ill voice my opinion first.

I believe he should not be tried in the US as he was in The UK when he commited the crimes.
Also, in another video his mother talks about another hacker in this country that did worse than him and was tried in this country and was hardly punished.

tronsmith · 07-12-09, 11:05 AM

The US are trying to make an example of him as this is a fairly high profile case. He should be tried in this country.

The people who should really be punnished are the governments hiding technology which would better the world.

-null- · 07-12-09, 11:30 AM

No because 1 minute into the video he's clearly not all there and should be sent to hospital not jail and the US don't seem to want to do that.

TheDoctor · 07-12-09, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by -null-

No because 1 minute into the video he's clearly not all there and should be sent to hospital not jail and the US don't seem to want to do that.

Not all there? You try what he did.

jp607 · 07-12-09, 04:18 PM

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Not all there? You try what he did.

Apparently the guy has aspergus and has been suicidal because of the case.

TheDoctor · 07-12-09, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jp607

Apparently the guy has aspergus and has been suicidal because of the case.

He's scared of going to jail and thinks somehow he'll got to Guantanamo Bay.

Harvez · 07-12-09, 04:37 PM

anti gravity wooohoo cant wait for that shizzle to hit the streets means I can stop trying to lose weight lol.

with regards to him being tried in another country im not sure as non of us have the real information as to what he's really accessed and done.
but if he has been privvy to some delicate information on yank computers you can bet they will do anything it takes to have him removed from the UK.

oXoDCoXo · 07-12-09, 04:46 PM

anti gravity sounds cool

and only 7 years....

I dont think he should be tried in the US, but I can see why they want it

I just dont like how governments hide stuff from the general public... thats why it would be great to be head of MI5 or something (but watching spooks makes it all look to dodgey and corrupted so maybe not

)

chigley · 07-12-09, 04:58 PM

I wish he'd found proper dirt, like proof that the trip to the moon was a fake

Don't think he should be sent to prison at all. Will go into detail later, maybe, if I have time to write a proper post

TheDoctor · 07-12-09, 04:58 PM

I have to agree about the Anti Gravity bit.(seems a bit mental)

I really wanna know if he saw anything about Roswell........

mcgrou · 07-12-09, 05:20 PM

Sounds like a movie plot.

Hero hacks into the corrupt government's secret database full of hidden files, then is caught while doing it and no one believes his crazy claims. Now we've just got to wait for him to beat all odds and destroy the evil mastermind behind all this.

I personally believe that he should the US should be more worried about how easy it was for the guy to hack into the military and NASA computers and be thankful it wasn't someone who would have caused actual damage. He should be charged in Britain, the US wants to make an example of him which isn't justice, it is them trying to keep face. If he has been hacking for as many years as is being said, without attempting anything malicious or harmful, it is clear that he did not have the intention to do so.

Larkino · 07-12-09, 05:23 PM

US shouldn't be charging him, they should be employing him to secure their bloody computers!

oXoDCoXo · 07-12-09, 05:48 PM

I dont think they even need him from what he says tbh... they just need somebody to do it as nobody does lol

TheDoctor · 07-12-09, 05:59 PM

In the Video he says they use Windows PCs without passwords.
How dumb is that?

mcgrou · 07-12-09, 06:01 PM

Nah, it says they use the default passwords that come with windows.

TheDoctor · 07-12-09, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mcgrou

Nah, it says they use the default passwords that come with windows.

Oh, okay.

Harvez · 07-12-09, 06:28 PM

remember guys he was doing this upto 10 years ago when pc security was ****e at best.

mcgrou · 07-12-09, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Harvez

remember guys he was doing this upto 10 years ago when pc security was ****e at best.

They had passwords and the ability to change them though. It's like not changing your PIN number from the default that you get with your bank account.

07-12-09, 10:00 AM	#2
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07-12-09, 10:08 AM	#3
TheDoctor Mini Mac Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: London Posts: 3,788	Well ok i was gonna wait for others but ill voice my opinion first. I believe he should not be tried in the US as he was in The UK when he commited the crimes. Also, in another video his mother talks about another hacker in this country that did worse than him and was tried in this country and was hardly punished. __________________

07-12-09, 11:30 AM	#5
-null- Mini Mac Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,135	No because 1 minute into the video he's clearly not all there and should be sent to hospital not jail and the US don't seem to want to do that. Last edited by -null-; 07-12-09 at 11:31 AM..

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Harvez Mini Mac Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: l33dz Posts: 9,421	anti gravity wooohoo cant wait for that shizzle to hit the streets means I can stop trying to lose weight lol. with regards to him being tried in another country im not sure as non of us have the real information as to what he's really accessed and done. but if he has been privvy to some delicate information on yank computers you can bet they will do anything it takes to have him removed from the UK. __________________ Freebiejeebies \| Free iphone \| Free Blackberry \| Free Wii U \| Free laptop ^^^^ its not real stop begging losers ^^^^ Someone once said "Life is what you make it", I disagree sometimes life makes you into what you are.

07-12-09, 04:58 PM	#12
TheDoctor Mini Mac Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: London Posts: 3,788	I have to agree about the Anti Gravity bit.(seems a bit mental) I really wanna know if he saw anything about Roswell........ __________________

07-12-09, 11:05 AM	#4
tronsmith iPod 60gb Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brighton Posts: 1,663	The US are trying to make an example of him as this is a fairly high profile case. He should be tried in this country. The people who should really be punnished are the governments hiding technology which would better the world.

07-12-09, 04:46 PM	#10
oXoDCoXo iBook Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Coventry Posts: 2,025	anti gravity sounds cool and only 7 years.... I dont think he should be tried in the US, but I can see why they want it I just dont like how governments hide stuff from the general public... thats why it would be great to be head of MI5 or something (but watching spooks makes it all look to dodgey and corrupted so maybe not )

07-12-09, 04:58 PM	#11
chigley Mini Mac Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bolton/London (home/uni.) Posts: 8,415	I wish he'd found proper dirt, like proof that the trip to the moon was a fake Don't think he should be sent to prison at all. Will go into detail later, maybe, if I have time to write a proper post

07-12-09, 05:20 PM	#13
mcgrou - - - - - - - Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: - Posts: 5,148	Sounds like a movie plot. Hero hacks into the corrupt government's secret database full of hidden files, then is caught while doing it and no one believes his crazy claims. Now we've just got to wait for him to beat all odds and destroy the evil mastermind behind all this. I personally believe that he should the US should be more worried about how easy it was for the guy to hack into the military and NASA computers and be thankful it wasn't someone who would have caused actual damage. He should be charged in Britain, the US wants to make an example of him which isn't justice, it is them trying to keep face. If he has been hacking for as many years as is being said, without attempting anything malicious or harmful, it is clear that he did not have the intention to do so. __________________ Spoiler Warning: If you are reading this then this warning is for you. Every word you read of this useless fine print is another second off your life. Don't you have other things to do? Is your life so empty that you honestly can't think of a better way to spend these moments? Or are you so impressed with authority that you give respect and credence to all that claim it? Do you read everything you're supposed to read? Do you think every thing you're supposed to think? Buy what you're told to want? Get out of your apartment. Meet a member of the opposite sex. Stop the excessive shopping and masturbation. Quit your job. Start a fight. Prove you're alive. If you don't claim your humanity you will become a statistic. You have been warned - Tyler Last edited by mcgrou; 07-12-09 at 05:21 PM..

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Larkino Call me Vlad Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: South London Posts: 9,503	US shouldn't be charging him, they should be employing him to secure their bloody computers! __________________ Free Xbox 360 S \| Free Wii \| Last.FM

07-12-09, 05:48 PM	#15
oXoDCoXo iBook Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Coventry Posts: 2,025	I dont think they even need him from what he says tbh... they just need somebody to do it as nobody does lol

07-12-09, 05:59 PM	#16
TheDoctor Mini Mac Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: London Posts: 3,788	In the Video he says they use Windows PCs without passwords. How dumb is that? __________________

07-12-09, 06:01 PM	#17
mcgrou - - - - - - - Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: - Posts: 5,148	Nah, it says they use the default passwords that come with windows. __________________ Spoiler Warning: If you are reading this then this warning is for you. Every word you read of this useless fine print is another second off your life. Don't you have other things to do? Is your life so empty that you honestly can't think of a better way to spend these moments? Or are you so impressed with authority that you give respect and credence to all that claim it? Do you read everything you're supposed to read? Do you think every thing you're supposed to think? Buy what you're told to want? Get out of your apartment. Meet a member of the opposite sex. Stop the excessive shopping and masturbation. Quit your job. Start a fight. Prove you're alive. If you don't claim your humanity you will become a statistic. You have been warned - Tyler

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Harvez Mini Mac Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: l33dz Posts: 9,421	remember guys he was doing this upto 10 years ago when pc security was ****e at best. __________________ Freebiejeebies \| Free iphone \| Free Blackberry \| Free Wii U \| Free laptop ^^^^ its not real stop begging losers ^^^^ Someone once said "Life is what you make it", I disagree sometimes life makes you into what you are.