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02-12-09, 09:05 PM
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 |  Should we respect our soldiers more?I was in the Navy for more than ten years. After this i started realising that people in Britain have no respect at all for their soldiers fighting in overseas wars ! Sometimes news headlines are more about stupid big-titted celebs than on Afghanistan/Iraq casualties ! |
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02-12-09, 09:10 PM
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 | If you watch the news on a daily basis, its all you hear, there is always news about casualties in Afghanistan and Iraq. I wouldnt say at all there is a lack of media coverage on the subject. Its just the tabloid papers which put it as second rate news behind celebrities. But if it sells more papers, can you blame them? |
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02-12-09, 09:14 PM
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| Then if the tabloids sell more than serious papers, do you not think there is a serious problem with British people? Last edited by jeronimo917; 02-12-09 at 09:15 PM.. |
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02-12-09, 09:16 PM
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| Yes we don't respect them, i'm doing a Public Services course in college so am learning about all this. For example in WW2, you'd get people saying ''Oh they're very brave'' now it's just not like that, not as much respect anyway. I respect our soliders.
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02-12-09, 09:20 PM
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 | That's because with WW2 the public was backing the war and were in favour of it. With this war, it's never been in favour of the public.
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02-12-09, 09:22 PM
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| I believe that we do respect our soldiers, but like yourself I believe more can be done. Before I go to school, I watch the 7oclock news then listen to the more updates on the radio. Like Joe says, I hear it all the time and I think it's unfair for you to put everyone into one category. I don't know a single person who would say 'I don't care about soldiers' and if you know anyone, they are purely erotic. It's just that papers make more money out of celebrity stories that someone/s who had died. Although I find this absolutely stupid, there is nothing we can do.. Last edited by ElectroGirl; 02-12-09 at 09:23 PM.. |
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02-12-09, 09:24 PM
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02-12-09, 09:25 PM
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| alot kids/teenagers aint got respect for their own parents so dont expect them to respect people they dont even know. I have the utmost respect for WW1 WW2 soldiers Id be speaking German otherwise and tbhthe world would be a much worse place to live had it not been for the hundreds of thousands who lost their life's for OUR country, and others. today's soldiers are more of a political tool then here to protect our country. saying that I have respect for them just think they are being used.
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02-12-09, 09:41 PM
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02-12-09, 09:49 PM
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| Personally i think there is a lack of respect full stop. In terms of professions, the general public don't seem to respect any service people, be they soldiers, policemen, ambulance drivers, teachers, etc. In terms of general respect there is a chronic lack of respect for other people's property or other people's rights, its a sad state of affairs but that is my perception of our society. In terms of soldiers, i don't think the comparison can be made to WW1 and WW2 as in these wars the 'soldiers' were (for the most part) everyday men over the age of 18. Everyone had to go and fight, they were conscripted. For me, this makes a difference. Men marched off to war and faced the most horrific conditions imaginable to fight for their freedom and for our generations mere existence. Soldiers and wars today are very different. Today's soldiers are paid professions. They choose their career doing so fully in the knowledge that we are (currently) involved in two very unpopular wars. The news for the past few days has focussed on Afghanistan and Obama's plans to send 30,000 more US troops there so i personally think the media coverage is ample. I am not saying that we should not mourn when people are killed in war, but i think the comparison between WW1 and WW2 and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq shouldn't really be made, very different situations. |
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02-12-09, 10:13 PM
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| Everyone should respect our soldiers to a highest degree imo. They are fighting for our country and so they deserve all the backing. I believe the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are wrong. The Governments are to blame, not our soldiers who fight tooth and nail out there. I know many people must think the same as i have seen loads of friends join a facebook group which was something like Maximum Respect for British Soldiers. As said it's the Government i have the problem with. Anyone who doesn't respect British Soldiers i have a big problem with anyway!
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02-12-09, 10:44 PM
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| Yes, they deserve our respect, but what they deserve more is some decent *beep*ing equipment. Its disgusting how under supplied they are
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02-12-09, 10:44 PM
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| Well Gordan Brown says the main reason were over there is to minimise threats of teriorism to the UK. According to him we need to train the Afgan army so they can control their own country, only then we can pull out he said. This war could still go on for years yet sadly. I agree with Jono, society as a whole has a lot less respect for the Public Services than what it once did.
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02-12-09, 11:50 PM
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| National service...more discipline....more respect...more battle ready solidiers. Sorted.
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03-12-09, 12:37 AM
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| So dont you believe that everyone is entitled to basic human rights? And did you do national service? Last edited by joewarne; 03-12-09 at 12:37 AM.. |
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03-12-09, 01:31 AM
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| I can't say I believe in national service as I don't particuarly believe in war. However, I think people do respect the soldiers, its just people say that we don't when we actually do, if you get what I mean. Also, for the record human rights is a bunch of nonsense. Does a terrorist deserve human rights? no he does not. Regarding Iraq/Afghanistan, I don't give a toss about them so get our soldiers out. |
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| He forfeited those human rights when he planned/attempted to blow up people. |
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