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Old 04-09-09, 12:09 PM   #41
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Just as a little update to those who say Cannabis doesn't lead you on, a close friend was arrested in London for the possession of 5 class A pills. This was the same person that originally said they would never touch drugs, and shortly after said they would never go further than cannabis.
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Just as a little update to those who say Cannabis doesn't lead you on, a close friend was arrested in London for the possession of 5 class A pills. This was the same person that originally said they would never touch drugs, and shortly after said they would never go further than cannabis.
Of course there are people who will lead on... and it's true that most users of harder drugs will have done cannabis first, but doesn't mean that people that use it will lead onto harder drugs always... it's just playing with figures.

Also to add, I've been debating the 'addictiveness' side a lot with myself and friends recently, and it's different to other drugs... it's the same kind of addictiveness as food, football, gaming etc, you enjoy it, so you carry on doing it...
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now when I say legal I mean still restricted by licensed premises such as in Amsterdam.

Pro.

1. The taxes collected.
2. Putting a dent in the drug lords pocket.
3. Releasing a ton of space in our overcrowded prisons.
4. Less monies and time spent in our courts to convict.
5. Medical reasons.

Con

1. Regulating, making sure it's not laced with something more dangerous.
2. It's still "smoke" in ones lungs!
3. Smoking around children or others who don't wish to be high or,shouldn't be.
4. Age restrictions. How old?
5. Releasing prisoners who know no other way of life.
6. Having people walking around in an altered state with munchies!

There are tons of other pros and cons. JMO.

May I remind everyone this is a debating section, if you have nothing but stupid childish comments to make find another thread.
The part of your post which I've changed to red is actually a pro. There's no way to control what substances it's laced with if it's not legal.

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The part of your post which I've changed to red is actually a pro. There's no way to control what substances it's laced with if it's not legal.

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I think he means it in terms of costs for regulation, and the time making sure it's not laced.
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cannabis definatly shouldn't be legalised. and i dont think its realy something which can be debated. If we debated it logically then alcohol and cigs should be made illegal. Anyone who says that after inductively analysing the pros and cons, as well as taking case studies into account, that alchol should be legal obviously has never been to Pompy or Reading on a friday saturday. In fact theres more pros and Cons with legalising MDMA and E than theere is for weed....

weed is harmful to our bodies. arguments such as
1. The taxes collected.
2. Putting a dent in the drug lords pocket.
3. Releasing a ton of space in our overcrowded prisons.
4. Less monies and time spent in our courts to convict.
5. Its less harmful than alcohol / cigarettes
6. It would make it controled
7. Everyone does it anyway
etc
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are all completely invalid. Things such as Methadrone which have the same effects as MDMA are legal, but this doesn't have any effect. drug deals still sell it, evn tho you can buy it from the internet. Also, my friend took some into a club in reading called Mangos, bouncers caught him in a toilet thought it was coke/MDMA, police came out, (Costs) ... detained over night (costs) .. breakfast the next day (costs) taken back to his home (costs) ....

definatly shouldn't be legalised. if anything we should debate should alcohol be illegalized? sure beer tastes good but 95% of my mates drink it to lower their inhibitions, be more confidant, loosen up to dance, get the confidance to pull / get laid etc, relax and forget about work etc ...

basically no.
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basically no.
In due respect thats just your opinion. I however dont think its bad for my body. infact its good because it takes the pains away of everyday life. It helps a lot of people in many different ways. Doctors plea to make medical use of cannabis legal because they know of the wonders the plant holds.
You never hear of someone dying of cannabis unless its mixed with booze or more stonger drugs.
Legalisation would mean that my friend wouldn't of needed to go to a dealer and then get shot in the head for no reason.
IT would reduce crime, give the goverment extra money for the country and just basically help a lot of people.
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With those who have a family history of mental illness, like myself, a regular intake of Cannabis would push up the odds that I would become scizophrenic to something quite high.

And there are lots of people who are dependent on cannabis. I watched a decent documentary a while ago on the BBC I think, did any of you watch it? People smoking spliff like a heavy smoker smoking cigarettes...
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With those who have a family history of mental illness, like myself, a regular intake of Cannabis would push up the odds that I would become scizophrenic to something quite high.

And there are lots of people who are dependent on cannabis. I watched a decent documentary a while ago on the BBC I think, did any of you watch it? People smoking spliff like a heavy smoker smoking cigarettes...
You do realise that a lot of these claims have no scientific proof? It's just "related", as in people that have smoked cannabis have ended up with mental illnesses, if they would have gotten them anyway, who knows?
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its good because it takes the pains away of everyday life.
so does E

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It helps a lot of people in many different ways.
so does E

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You never hear of someone dying of cannabis ...
hardly anyone, as a percentage of users, has with E. millions die due to alcohol and tabaco tho ....

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you obviously didn't read my post

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IT would reduce crime, give the goverment extra money for the country and just basically help a lot of people.
so would the legalization of E

should we therefore legalize E? theres more possitives of legalization of E than Cannabis .... soooo?
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Schism was talking about psychological issues as a result of smoking cannabis, not lung cancers etc. It's pretty obvious it's going to cause lung cancer as it's smoking and when you have a spliff you have baccy in it!
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Schism was talking about psychological issues as a result of smoking cannabis, not lung cancers etc. It's pretty obvious it's going to cause lung cancer as it's smoking and when you have a spliff you have baccy in it!
Not always, it's mostly personal preference. (and whether or not you can afford it!)
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Not always, it's mostly personal preference. (and whether or not you can afford it!)
only a moron actually smokes a spliff with 100% cannabis in it

and depending on what it is, ie skunk etc., it could very well have baccy in it

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only a moron actually smokes a spliff with 100% cannabis in it

and depending on what it is, ie skunk etc., it could very well have baccy in it
My views exactly, but I'm just saying it can be done. (and thus, without the tobacco, a lot less damaging to your lungs)
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Yes I'm an idiot. I was looking for evidence that cannabis damages your health and that was the closest thing to hand!

I'm not against smoking cannabis either, I'm just trying to say it has health implications. One of my friends who over the past couple of years has got more into cannabis has really changed a lot, even when he isn't actually high. He is 24/7 spaced out and it just seems like he is wasting his life. I swear he doesn't even remember half of what is going on!
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