hypnosis

mikejoy1969 · 06-07-09, 07:00 PM

wife and I are having a discussion about whether or not hypnosis works. she works in NHS so disbelieves it but I think it works in certain cases.
Anyone have any experience of being hypnotised ?

Harvez · 06-07-09, 07:10 PM

ive never been hypnotized but a few friends have, and they all say its strange as you know what you are doing but when asked to do something you have no control but to do it.

alot of people also say before operations if people are hypnotized and tell them that its a simple operation and they will recover quickly blar blar most when surveys carried out did show quicker improvements over those who hadnt been hypnotized.

I couldnt ever be hypnotized as you have to allow yourself to "go under" as it were, and I have to be in control at all times.

id say there are some proven facts about hypnosis being beneficial for paitents and people who open minded enough to allow themselfs to believe.

the_icks · 06-07-09, 07:36 PM

I am a believer but would never be hypnotised. I am quite capable of making a fool of myself without any outside help!!

Now hypnotic 'regression', theres an interesting topic!!

someone · 31-10-09, 11:40 PM

I have total believe in hynotism. And i would love to have a try at it. Did you ever used to watch "have we been here before" or something like that. It was on Itv i think and it was about past life. I believe in that- who wouldn't want to find out what they were before this life?

keitaro258 · 01-11-09, 12:07 AM

i think its true just you dont start dancing like a chicken when they tell you too more like a way to remember things and wat not

pengasius · 07-11-09, 06:54 AM

hey mate

hypnosis is scientificly prooved... if is not prooved, hypnosis will noe be used by justice and crime investigator....

LiamGTR · 07-11-09, 11:23 AM

Aslong as the person is willing and easily manipulated/persuaded etc. and are able to go under a "trance" I believe it works, but like I say you need to be one of those people or else it would be totally useless, like myself I cannot be hypnotized because I' not easily lead/persuaded or want of a better word, where as all my friends can which is a shame because I want to know what it's like

Landy · 07-11-09, 11:56 AM

I watched a hypnotist in a dodgy bar in Gran Canaria in 1999, I probably would still be sceptical if 3 of my mates hadn't been volunteers. 2 were quickly eliminated for being too drunk, they weren't concentrating and thus didn't fall into the trance. The 3rd guy did fall into the trance and ended up doing all kinds of weird stuff, that he wouldn't do just because a stranger suggested it.

I reckon most people who are "willing" to be hypnotsied can be, the guy that was hypnotised of the 3 is probably the most intelligent, none of them are idiots.

Cefca · 07-11-09, 12:44 PM

It's the sort of thing I'd have to have done to myself before I'll ever believe it. Though it does just seem a lot like the power of suggestion like what Derren Brown deals with.

spagyeti · 08-11-09, 01:08 PM

With stage hypnotism I think a lot of the time it is just people doing what they believe is expected of them in that situation.

One way of inducing a 'hypnotic trance' which does seem to work on people, whether they believe in hypnotism or not, is when the hypnotist makes the person confused and then gives them a way out of the confusion. For example, if you are meeting someone and they hold out their hand for a hand shake, but when you do the same they don't shake your hand instead they grab your arm and place your hand on your forehead. In this unexpected situation you will be momentarily surprised and you won't know what to do, during this void the hypnotist will tell you what he wants you to do and you will do what he asks as he is giving you a way out of your confusion.

pozmu · 19-12-09, 12:11 AM

I never experienced it but I believe in it... just go and read some books about it, it's really interesting...

bmh16 · 19-12-09, 12:25 AM

Definitely works. You are put in a state of extreme relaxation and then you will be told to do stuff and your body will follow it in its fragile state. Very interesting though and i would be interested to see if it could happen on me!

williamblah · 19-12-09, 01:36 AM

I have a huge interest on hypnotism. I have succesfully hypnotised my ex gf (although clearly not well enough!). Ignore all the stage bull crap, it all makes sense if you do some research. It's a fascinating subject matter, and I am quite astounded that most people have little knowledge of it. It isn't anything weird or strange or paranormal - I am a strong atheist and do not believe in anything that could be considered paranormal. If you are open minded and rational, and read up enough about it, you will understand how it works, and how it makes sense and isn't crazy!

If anyone wants to know anything about it then feel free to ask me, I would like to think I'm quite an expert! I will post a note about how the hypnotism went with the ex gf and run through what I did.

I will also find some scripts if any of you guys fancy giving it a go? I need to find them in the depths of my computer but they are in there somewhere. I'd recommend either doing a relaxation one which will basically just relax your 'subject' and then leave them feeling invigorated and refreshed (maybe better for wife/gf etc?) or doing a test one, which basically goes through a few bits and pieces and essentially tests how responsive your 'subject' is to hypnosis. That one is a bit more interesting than the last one.

Anyway I will talk more when I don't need to watch Misfits on catch-up because I am hooked and missed it yesterday!

williamblah · 19-12-09, 02:01 AM

Too late to edit, I hope I didn't come across as a dick in that post, I'm just excited to be able to contribute. I didn't actually read the thread through, and so i hope i don't sound really patronising or anything, because I promise I wasn't being!

rollingsta · 19-12-09, 12:31 PM

you sounded fine mate
wanna send me some things to rollingsta1@googlemail.com
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bizilux · 19-12-09, 08:03 PM

yeah i think it can work, i wont try it tho

williamblah · 19-12-09, 08:34 PM

Sorry for the delay guys, I think it's on my external HDD, which isn't connected atm. Will put it up after work when i get back at around 1am!

williamblah · 20-12-09, 08:41 PM

http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~kihlst...C%20Script.pdf

That is one of the suggestibility tests similar to the one I used before.

And this is a link to the Wikipedia article about the suggestibility tests: Hypnotic susceptibility - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I actually used the "Form A" test, but can't find that at the moment, and I'm at my gfs and her mac is a pain in the arse, but I will try and find some more bits for you guys.

ohjerry · 27-12-09, 04:13 AM

So far science has not been able to prove or disprove hypnosis. We know that it works to a certain degree, but we don't really understand how or why, as it relates to the human mind. And even then this effectiveness is questionable at best.

When someone undergoes hypnosis they feel relaxed and enter a state of heightened imagination, but it also helps people to focus on one thing at a time. For example, think about when you watch TV sometimes. You sometimes get so into it that you don't pay attention to what's going on around you (people talking, dog running around, etc). This is kind of like hypnosis.

But is it beneficial or harmful is maybe the question we should be asking. We know it occurs even in every day life when people zone out or daydream, but so far there have been no viable scientific explanations.

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Harvez Pig or Owl? Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: (o)(o) Posts: 5,954 Thanks: 430 Thanked 1,543 Times in 1,002 Posts	ive never been hypnotized but a few friends have, and they all say its strange as you know what you are doing but when asked to do something you have no control but to do it. alot of people also say before operations if people are hypnotized and tell them that its a simple operation and they will recover quickly blar blar most when surveys carried out did show quicker improvements over those who hadnt been hypnotized. I couldnt ever be hypnotized as you have to allow yourself to "go under" as it were, and I have to be in control at all times. id say there are some proven facts about hypnosis being beneficial for paitents and people who open minded enough to allow themselfs to believe. __________________ Free PAYG iphone \| Free PsP Go \| Free iphone \| Free DSi \| Free PS3 Slim\| Free ipod Spat your dummy out? free cleaning service offered.
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someone iPod Nano 4GB Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bucks Posts: 256 Thanks: 69 Thanked 23 Times in 21 Posts	I have total believe in hynotism. And i would love to have a try at it. Did you ever used to watch "have we been here before" or something like that. It was on Itv i think and it was about past life. I believe in that- who wouldn't want to find out what they were before this life?
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keitaro258 iPod Nano 2GB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: In a galaxy far far away Posts: 106 Thanks: 5 Thanked 12 Times in 6 Posts	i think its true just you dont start dancing like a chicken when they tell you too more like a way to remember things and wat not
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pengasius iPod Nano 2GB Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Québec Canada Posts: 105 Thanks: 6 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	hey mate hypnosis is scientificly prooved... if is not prooved, hypnosis will noe be used by justice and crime investigator....
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LiamGTR iPod 30gb Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: North East Posts: 1,185 Thanks: 19 Thanked 128 Times in 118 Posts	Aslong as the person is willing and easily manipulated/persuaded etc. and are able to go under a "trance" I believe it works, but like I say you need to be one of those people or else it would be totally useless, like myself I cannot be hypnotized because I' not easily lead/persuaded or want of a better word, where as all my friends can which is a shame because I want to know what it's like
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Landy iPod 20gb Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brentwood Posts: 731 Thanks: 202 Thanked 126 Times in 105 Posts	I watched a hypnotist in a dodgy bar in Gran Canaria in 1999, I probably would still be sceptical if 3 of my mates hadn't been volunteers. 2 were quickly eliminated for being too drunk, they weren't concentrating and thus didn't fall into the trance. The 3rd guy did fall into the trance and ended up doing all kinds of weird stuff, that he wouldn't do just because a stranger suggested it. I reckon most people who are "willing" to be hypnotsied can be, the guy that was hypnotised of the 3 is probably the most intelligent, none of them are idiots. __________________ Spoiler Received: 360giveaway - Xbox 360 Premium FreebieJeebies - Corsair Survivor 16GB USB Flash Drive FreebieJeebies - £136 Bank Transfer Free iPhone 3GS \| Free HDTV
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Cefca iPod 30gb Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,343 Thanks: 119 Thanked 167 Times in 127 Posts	It's the sort of thing I'd have to have done to myself before I'll ever believe it. Though it does just seem a lot like the power of suggestion like what Derren Brown deals with. Last edited by Cefca; 07-11-09 at 12:45 PM..
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spagyeti Biggedy Biggedy Bong Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 66 Thanks: 12 Thanked 15 Times in 13 Posts	With stage hypnotism I think a lot of the time it is just people doing what they believe is expected of them in that situation. One way of inducing a 'hypnotic trance' which does seem to work on people, whether they believe in hypnotism or not, is when the hypnotist makes the person confused and then gives them a way out of the confusion. For example, if you are meeting someone and they hold out their hand for a hand shake, but when you do the same they don't shake your hand instead they grab your arm and place your hand on your forehead. In this unexpected situation you will be momentarily surprised and you won't know what to do, during this void the hypnotist will tell you what he wants you to do and you will do what he asks as he is giving you a way out of your confusion. __________________ Freebies UK
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bmh16 Call me Ben .... Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Neath Posts: 7,031 Thanks: 1,285 Thanked 776 Times in 648 Posts	Definitely works. You are put in a state of extreme relaxation and then you will be told to do stuff and your body will follow it in its fragile state. Very interesting though and i would be interested to see if it could happen on me! __________________ Formerly known as biker14 FREE PS3 \| FREE iPod \| My Music \| FREE Wii I won the FJ Money!
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williamblah Free Tibet! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Colchester, Essex, UK Posts: 800 Thanks: 145 Thanked 187 Times in 146 Posts	I have a huge interest on hypnotism. I have succesfully hypnotised my ex gf (although clearly not well enough!). Ignore all the stage bull crap, it all makes sense if you do some research. It's a fascinating subject matter, and I am quite astounded that most people have little knowledge of it. It isn't anything weird or strange or paranormal - I am a strong atheist and do not believe in anything that could be considered paranormal. If you are open minded and rational, and read up enough about it, you will understand how it works, and how it makes sense and isn't crazy! If anyone wants to know anything about it then feel free to ask me, I would like to think I'm quite an expert! I will post a note about how the hypnotism went with the ex gf and run through what I did. I will also find some scripts if any of you guys fancy giving it a go? I need to find them in the depths of my computer but they are in there somewhere. I'd recommend either doing a relaxation one which will basically just relax your 'subject' and then leave them feeling invigorated and refreshed (maybe better for wife/gf etc?) or doing a test one, which basically goes through a few bits and pieces and essentially tests how responsive your 'subject' is to hypnosis. That one is a bit more interesting than the last one. Anyway I will talk more when I don't need to watch Misfits on catch-up because I am hooked and missed it yesterday! __________________ FreebieHub: A guide to getting expensive stuff for free!
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bizilux iPod Shuffle Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	yeah i think it can work, i wont try it tho
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williamblah Free Tibet! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Colchester, Essex, UK Posts: 800 Thanks: 145 Thanked 187 Times in 146 Posts	http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~kihlst...C%20Script.pdf That is one of the suggestibility tests similar to the one I used before. And this is a link to the Wikipedia article about the suggestibility tests: Hypnotic susceptibility - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia I actually used the "Form A" test, but can't find that at the moment, and I'm at my gfs and her mac is a pain in the arse, but I will try and find some more bits for you guys. __________________ FreebieHub: A guide to getting expensive stuff for free!
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ohjerry iPod Shuffle Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	So far science has not been able to prove or disprove hypnosis. We know that it works to a certain degree, but we don't really understand how or why, as it relates to the human mind. And even then this effectiveness is questionable at best. When someone undergoes hypnosis they feel relaxed and enter a state of heightened imagination, but it also helps people to focus on one thing at a time. For example, think about when you watch TV sometimes. You sometimes get so into it that you don't pay attention to what's going on around you (people talking, dog running around, etc). This is kind of like hypnosis. But is it beneficial or harmful is maybe the question we should be asking. We know it occurs even in every day life when people zone out or daydream, but so far there have been no viable scientific explanations.
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