Children in Need 2008

[kevan321]

"Are you donating in return for a ticket to an event/raffle/auction?
No
Yes"

What'd you guys answer

[dannyo]

No

[Simon]

Originally Posted by kevan321

"Are you donating in return for a ticket to an event/raffle/auction?
No
Yes"

What'd you guys answer

No because then gift aid doesnt get added

[kevan321]

Ye, that's what I thought, aw well, I just added on the extra money, so they still get the same amount

[Jon]

I never knew about the restriction for a raffle existed for gift aid, and any way to work around it will in effect affect the charity and their gift aid status, so I do have to stress the importance of being honest.

Perhaps a possible solution, if you were donating £10 say, would be to do £5 as gift aid, and £5 without, then state that and only have 1 entry into the competition?

[xbox360guy]

Originally Posted by Jon

I never knew about the restriction for a raffle existed for gift aid, and any way to work around it will in effect affect the charity and their gift aid status, so I do have to stress the importance of being honest.

Perhaps a possible solution, if you were donating £10 say, would be to do £5 as gift aid, and £5 without, then state that and only have 1 entry into the competition?

did you get my paypal proof btw? had no reply... and how will these prizes be worked out? in a raffle?

[Jon]

I do, will be working out the final details later on this evening

[Simon]

Originally Posted by Jon

I never knew about the restriction for a raffle existed for gift aid, and any way to work around it will in effect affect the charity and their gift aid status, so I do have to stress the importance of being honest.

Perhaps a possible solution, if you were donating £10 say, would be to do £5 as gift aid, and £5 without, then state that and only have 1 entry into the competition?

How about we just just dont officially associate the "raffle of greens" with the donation, just make a donation part of the requirements for the draw and also something else (like posting in a thread saying theyve donated) then we are being honest in the sense that the donation alone isnt being used in exchange for a entry into a competition.

[Jon]

Because it is still linked to the raffle.

Even if I was to later on arrange a raffle/random giveaway amongst the donating members, it would still not be within gift aid guidelines.

[Simon]

Originally Posted by Jon

Because it is still linked to the raffle.

Even if I was to later on arrange a raffle/random giveaway amongst the donating members, it would still not be within gift aid guidelines.

OK im sure im not the only one, but i rather sacrifice my raffle entry and ensure more goes to charity than not give the extra. But we did the same thing last year didnt we with a competition, have the gift aid rules changed?

[Jon]

I couldn't say about the rules changing.

[scudbook]

*Bump*

Come on folks get donating

[waf43]

Just donated £7.08 via paypal ....

Leaving my account with a whole 1p in it ....

[tombsc]

Ok guys, dug this up from the hmrc website (HM Revenue & Customs: Section B: Gift Aid for Individuals from April 2000)

3.8.4 Subject to the benefits rules outlined below in Section D, outright payments to a charity in return for services, rights or goods are not gifts to charity and so are not eligible for Gift Aid tax relief. For example, the following cannot come within the Gift Aid scheme:

Payment

[...]
for raffle or lottery tickets (including 100 clubs etc). The payment to purchase a raffle ticket from a charity is not a gift to that charity but a payment for the right to enter the raffle. It is immaterial that the chance or expectation of winning a prize is small or that the value of the prize maybe negligible

What that is saying is that if you are purchasing a raffle ticket from the charity you are donating to, you cannot add gift aid as it is not a donation, but a purchase.

In this case, we are making a donation to the charity. The raffle is not provided by that charity therefore the donations are eligible for gift aid.

So, when you donate, please do add gift aid - it is perfectly acceptable to do so.

[Jon]

Originally Posted by tombsc

Ok guys, dug this up from the hmrc website (HM Revenue & Customs: Section B: Gift Aid for Individuals from April 2000)



What that is saying is that if you are purchasing a raffle ticket from the charity you are donating to, you cannot add gift aid as it is not a donation, but a purchase.

In this case, we are making a donation to the charity. The raffle is not provided by that charity therefore the donations are eligible for gift aid.

So, when you donate, please do add gift aid - it is perfectly acceptable to do so.

Saves me ringing up the charities commission and asking for their advice.

Just to make things crystal clear, any prizes in this raffle/comp are being donated by companies not linked in any way to BBC's Children in Need

[chigley]

So Jon we're OK to add gift aid, yes?

[Jon]

Yeah, but obviously only add it if you are working and have paid income tax to the amount that can be claimed

[chigley]

Originally Posted by Jon

Yeah, but obviously only add it if you are working and have paid income tax to the amount that can be claimed

For the first time ever I can actually legitimately tick the box now (Although I always click it anyway!)

[dannyo]

Whats the total so far anyway?? Must be close to last year already!

[danieljt]

Originally Posted by dannyo

Whats the total so far anyway?? Must be close to last year already!

Currently £78 + the direct donations via PayPal.